random_met_fan Anonymous

First of all, you should get your facts right, the Mets lost in the NLCS. They swept LA in the first round. The Mets were NL East Champs, with 97 wins(tied for most in the majors). The Rangers only had 80 wins, they lost 82. But the main point was that the Mets have a better chance to win again next year. So if Zito wants to win better New York than Arlington.

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mcs81986 Anonymous

First of all, I don't understand the Mets bashing. Your whole basis doesn't make much sense in proving the Rangers are a better fit and more of a winning team. Yes, the Mets won 20 years ago and the Rangers have never won. That's not the reason why the Mets think they're a winner. You criticize the Mets for losing in the playoffs (as random_met_fan pointed out, you were incorrect in your fact because they did advance past the first round) but you can't lose in the playoffs without getting to the playoffs. The Mets are clearly a team on the rise. They've been improving over the last 2 years with young talent in their offense and pitching. Not to take anything away from the Rangers who always seem to put up the runs, but the Mets have proven that they can make it to the playoffs, they've held on to the core of the team from last year, and therefore they're closer to being a winner than the Rangers are.

Of course, there's another theory that perhaps the firing of Buck Showalter should guarantee a World Series victory. Yankees fired him in 1995 and won in 1996. D'Backs fired him in 2000 and won in 2001. So if you want to use that to prove the Rangers are a winner then go right ahead.

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johnwooden Anonymous

why would barry zito want to pitch for a team that always finished LOWER than the A's in the AL West? money would be the only possible reason.

it was the same thing with arod. only one owner was stupid enough to pay 25 million a year for a player he was the only one bidding on.

at least W doesn't own the team anymore, his sosa for baines deal was an all-time classic.

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HessMan Anonymous

"They've certainly moved in the right direction the past several years. But they've got serious questions about their rotation, I don't think it's accurate to label them as a team on the rise."

Ummm....Wouldn't signing Zito answer some of those "serious questions about their rotation"? Isn't that the whole point? They came one hit away from beating the team that won the World Series last year even though they had those "serious questions." If Zito answers them, they become a contender next season, if not the favorite. Would that happen to the Rangers if he went to Arlington? Of course not. That's why Zito should come to New York.

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JonBurrows Anonymous

Man, you are a big jerk.

Your argument is completely ridiculous, and lacks complete logic.

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cousinrk Anonymous

Its not accurate to label them on the rise because they have questions in the rotation? Do you know anything about the Mets organization? Have you heard of Phillup Humber and Mike Pelfrey? Let me educate you. They are two of the top pitching prospects in baseball, and along with John Maine and Oliver Perez are 4 young talented starters that will begin being inserted in the rotation over the next year or two. Along with David Wright, Jose Reyes and Carlos Beltran all young core position players under 30, that is what you call having a team on the up and up. Add in Carlos Gomez and Fernando Martinez two of the top young outfielders in baseball. When someone says a team has a bright future that means building a farm system and an organization that can compete for years, so you have to look at the whole picture not "well they have questions in this years rotation". Having questions in your rotation for one year doesn't mean you can't label them as an organization on the rise. Try doing a little research before making uneducated statements. Maybe the Rangers are an organization on the rise I don't know their farm system but I'm guessing not because if they did they wouldn't have dumped money on Padilla and be offering so much for Zito. And for a pitcher why would you want to pitch in a bandbox like they have in Texas when you can pitch in one of the top home run killing ballparks in baseball, Shea Stadium. With weaker lineups, no DH, a good organization on the rise and ask anyone the best clubhouse around, that's why everyone is saying the mets are a better fit. 3 years ago, I wouldn't touch the Mets they were such a mess but they are a different story these days. Look it up

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TexasSucks Anonymous

SpongeBob and Patrick were right...people from Texas are DUMB! Duh.

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buptown Anonymous

Dear "Blair",

Obviously, your facts are incorrect... my fellow Metropolitan fans have already pointed that out. But your blatant baseball ignorance is absolutely mind-boggling. It matters where we are at the moment, not what we've done in the last 20 years.

Not to mention (although, I understand I probably shouldn't be throwing stones with our recent Mota suspension...) but lets rethink who was on those Ranger teams that made those playoff appearances... hmmm... Juan Gonzalez... Rafael Palmeiro... Pudge Rodriguez... those were all pivotal players... I'm not going to say it, but we are all thinking the same thing.

I will thank you for this though "Blair", on a hazy Friday morning following a late night Holiday party, your ignorant letter sparked me to wake up. I actually might go get some work done now.

Regards,

Section 26, Row K, Seat 4

p.s. This is below the belt, but I can't help myself... perhaps throwing $252 million at Zito will help you land him??? Its worked for you before!!!

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MrMet Anonymous

Why wouldn't Zito be overpaid? Look at the market right now. He's the best FA pitcher available this year with the exception of perhaps Matzusaka, and with genius owners handing out $11M/year contracts to the likes of Vicente Padilla and $6M per to Gagne, a closer who can't stay on the field these past 2 years because of injury, Boras is going to get what he wants. After all, if Chan Ho Park made $15.3M last year for the Padres, why wouldn't Zito get $17M per? Remind me again who signed him to the ridiculous contract originally?

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msell Anonymous

You Texas people crack me up with this winner talk...the only time a team from Texas ever went to the World Series, they got swept. Well guess what big guy, A Loser Isn't A Winner. I guess they give journalism jobs to angry guys who write what amounts to an online journal entry.

The points being made are valid: the Mets, right now, are a better team than the Rangers, they play in the NL which is offensively, a weaker league, and they play in a pitcher's park. Whereas the Rangers, play in a park that eats up pitching. Also, they play in a division with Oakland and the Angels, two consistantly good teams...one of which is Zito's former team. OH! and I agree with you that Zito shouldn't be paid like a dominant ace, so maybe your team, who are apparently the only team to offer him anything, pull back their offer?

Next time you feel like writing an opinion piece, lets take a deep breath first.

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blankman Anonymous

Hey numnuts? Could you enlighten myself and your hoardes of fans the playoff acumen your esteemed franchise has gone through? I seem to recall you live in that powerhouse AL west division that has produced an alarming amount of nothing. I could be wrong but usually when someone sets themselves up in supposed trash talk, shouldn't they have some argument to back it up?

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HUSHTHATFUSS_is_not_a_word Anonymous

I like to refer to the Texas Rangers as the Washington Redskins of Major League baseball. How is all the money spent working out for the Redskins?

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msell Anonymous

Funny, Blankman...a lot of people have said the same thing about the Rangers!

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Lovernsmom Anonymous

You have got to be kidding me. Calling the Braves winners...if your logic for being called a "winner" is championships, then the Mets have as many World Championships over the last 20 years as the Braves do...ONE...you are an idiot...the Mets are a hell of a lot closer to winning anything of importance than the Rangers...we're talking about an organization that bis against themselves and spent a quarter of a billion dollars on Alex Rodriguez...only to have him say a few months later that he wished he signed with the Mets...I believe we have some Mets envy here...don't worry, as you enjoy another October with NO POSTSEASON, you can watch the Mets on there way to there 2nd World Championship over the past 21 years...everything's bigger in Texas, huh...even the idiots who have no idea what they are talking about!

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otterulz Anonymous

Ok, first you screwed up about how far they got in the playoffs. Whatever. But the basis of your argument is pretty weak. If your definition of a "winner" is a team that wins the World Series, which I'm assuming you mean since you keep bringing up the fact that they haven't won since '86, then why are you calling the Braves champions, "(hello Atlanta Braves 1991-2005?)"? The Braves won one, count 'em, ONE World Series in that span back in 1995. The rest were all Division crowns. Now if I recall, I believe the new Division champs are the New York Mets. Does that make them winners now in your book or did you just try and get by with that Braves argument?

And yeah, Zito will probably get overpaid, but how do you complain about a guy who is about to get more money than he's worth when you signed A-Rod to a quarter of a billion dollar deal?

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msell Anonymous

I'm sorry, that was my bad, I wasn't refering to Blankman, I was refering to Mr Cohen.

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otterulz Anonymous

"This whole article was enlightening to me. I didn't even know there was a second baseball team in New York."

This is what people resort to when they have no argument. Way to go, Chief!

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MetsFanSF Anonymous

Wow - I can't believe how arrogant the Texas fan base is. I thought Texans were known for their charm and good manners - guess not.

Well, in any case, Zito is using Texas' moron owner Hicks to raise his salary.

There's no way he'd move to a hick state like Texas, a vast cultural wasteland that we really ought to return to Mexico where it belongs.

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Chaseh Anonymous

"Alan Cohen Staff This whole article was enlightening to me. I didn't even know there was a second baseball team in New York."

The Mets only drew 1,000,000 more fans to their games than the Rangers in 2006.

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KingsofQueens Anonymous

Last time I checked Both NEW YORK teams had the best record in MLB. That is a lot of wins for a bunch of loosers.

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mrdizzle91 Anonymous

wow! Can you say inferiority complex?Before you post an article for your column or whatever this is at the very least get your facts straight. Oh and you mention Mo Vaughn ( which happened yearsss ago) how about a-rod for 252 mil, Chan ho park, and just recently trading for Carlos Lee for no reason. 20 years ago doesnt matter guys. What matters is the immediate future. And the Mets are the better team in that future with or without Zito. Have fun rooting for anotehr mediocre Rangers team you joke of a journalist.

ps- can i have my 2 min back from reading that article, please?

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otterulz Anonymous

Ok, and the Cardinals beat the Tigers who won how many games in the oh so superior American League? 97 wins. 97. What happened there? I like how you try to make an argument about how weak the NL is, yet conveniently leave out the fact that an NL team with 83 wins happened to win the World Series. Geez, this isn't even an argument anymore.

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capthr Anonymous

Hey Mr Cohen, check with Mr Zito He knows there is another team in NY.

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OmarMinaya Anonymous

Why is reaching the NLCS not impressive???

I would think that a Rangers fan would feel otherwise being that you've only managed to win a single playoff game in your entire history. The Rangers have been terrible more often than not, mediocre at times & rarely competitive.

You can't compare the Rangers to the Mets. Anyway the Rangers organization is only on the far left margin of the map because of the exploits of the great Nolan Ryan, who by the way, won a WS with the Mets.

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msell Anonymous

"All of these comments are correct: the Mets are the better place because they play in the watered-down, weakened National League. I mean, the Cardinals won just 83 games last year..three more than the Rangers... you'd have to be a team of overpaid underachievers to lose in this---oh, wait.

Face it: the Mets got 97 wins playing against the Brewers and Cubs. They'd be about the same as the Royals if they played in the much stronger AL."

Your arguements just never cease to amaze me. I guess I'm still posting here because I hate this inferiority complex that Texas people seem to have towards New York and the east coast in general. No one up here cares about the state of Texas in the least...for the most part, you have been written off. So why not do the same thing to us? Just go enjoy your boring state with far less history than anywhere on the east coast.

There, I just outed the underlying theme of this whole arguement.

Oh and by the way, the Tigers lost to the Cardinals too...so your arguement has just been invalidated...have a nice day.

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MrMet Anonymous

"Face it: the Mets got 97 wins playing against the Brewers and Cubs"

The Mets got 97 wins facing 2 teams not in their division? OK I guess... So with that logic, the Rangers reached the impressive amount of 80 wins by beating the likes of KC, Tampa Bay, Cleveland, and Baltimore? I'm sorry I don't have more examples as those happen to be the only teams in the entire AL with the exception of Seattle that finished with a worse record than the Rangers.

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TEXAS_252MILL Anonymous

"Face it: the Mets got 97 wins playing against the Brewers and Cubs. They'd be about the same as the Royals if they played in the much stronger AL"

Didn't we have to play those eventual World Series Champs during the season? The team that kicked the every living $h!t out of the AL Champs, the "best team in baseball". Give me a break the Rangers are the worst franchise in baseball history. You have not won 1 playoff series in the teams existence talk about winning. So whats the payroll going to be this year

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MrMet Anonymous

BTW..

Odibe McDowell called and asked you to stop talking. You are embarassing his family name...

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WE_ARE_BETTER_THAN_YOU Anonymous

Hey Texas - Congrats on getting a newspaper!!! While I wholeheartedly support naming your team after a Chuck Norris affiliation, don't be bitter that the Mets are using their rankings as a competitive advantage. From a pitcher's perspective, Texas offers a horrible park, a dangerous league, buffoon presidents and the continuing threat of secession (please succeed on this one - you bring no value to the Union). The Mets offer a pitching friendly park, great defense, a young offensive core, $$$, a favorable league, the economic capital of the world, etc etc etc. Please stop being offended when Zito turns down your larger offer in favor of the Mets. We're simply better than you.

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otterulz Anonymous

"I'm not saying the Mets are a bad team... heck, with a few lucky breaks here and there, they might even be a .500 team in the AL. They've got some talent, for sure... enough, probably, to take an AL team to five or even six games before losing the series. And really, that would be a tremendous victory for Mets fans everywhere."

I like how you're an expert on this subject, yet you can't even come with logical arguments as to why or back anything up.

I don't know, maybe you like reading New Yorkers come in here and get all wound up over a poorly written, illogical piece. Maybe that's your thing. Or maybe you just don't know baseball. Who knows?!?!?! Anyway, thank you for this though, because after reading the quality of the material on here, it's nice to know that I can become a "journalist" in Texas. See, in New York, you actually have to know what you're talking about to become one, so that's a tougher road I don't feel like going down.

Thank you, Texas!

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Blue_and_Orange Anonymous

This is one of the funnier articles (I guess you could call it that) that I've read in a long time. That's right, the Rangers are LOSERS and will be for at least a few more years. You're obviously missing the point of saying that Zito should go to a winning team. The Mets record 20 years ago has ZERO relevance when discussing their potential for the year to come. 3 years ago means NOTHING either. The Mets have the most talented nucleous of young players in the majors and it's disgraceful that the mediocre Cardinals won the World Series last year. Injuries proved too much to overcome, but the addition of Zito would give us that extra push we need. After he signs and becomes a New York MET we'll try not to slip on your tears on the way to the top. Have fun in loser town, losers.

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MrMet Anonymous

"Todd Maternowski Staff I'm not saying the Mets are a bad team... heck, with a few lucky breaks here and there, they might even be a .500 team in the AL. They've got some talent, for sure... enough, probably, to take an AL team to five or even six games before losing the series. And really, that would be a tremendous victory for Mets fans everywhere. "

These would all be great arguments if a NL team didn't win the World Series.

If you guys could contradict yourself some more that would be great...

Enough of this... to quote yet another intelligent Texan, George W. Bush:

I have work I need to get back to in order to pay the bills, and "to help put food on my family."

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HessMan Anonymous

He wasn't saying the Braves were champions or winners, by the way. He was using the Braves as an example of the fact that winning divisions does not make you a champion. True. But 80-82 doesn't either. Given the choice, I'll take the division titles, even if it means losing in the playoffs. Not that we'll have to worry too much about that after BZ signs with us (for less money).

And, that way, you Rangers fans shouldn't have to worry too much about losing in the playoffs any time soon either. So that should work out well for everyone.

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kfs1986 Anonymous

I guess none of you got into UT Austin. That must explain the inferiority complex that's commonly associated with UT rejects.

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beastoffareast Anonymous

All right, things are getting out of hand. Let's take re-examine the argument. Was it incorrect to lable the mets as a "winner?" I guess it depends on your definition of the term, but during the regular season, no team ended up being the "winner" more than the mets. Furthermore, essentially the same team that came up just shy in the NLCS against the eventual World Series Champions with a starting rotation of Glavine, Trachsel, John Maine, and Ollie Perez will be returning. You cannot deny that you would expect a different outcome had the mets entered the playoffs with Zito in the rotation. Not only would Zito be joining a (mostly) young team on the rise, but he would be revered for filling what's currently the most glaring weakness. Let's take a look at what the mets have: 3 All-Star infielders (not to mention perennial all-star Carlos Delgado), All-Star/Gold Glover/MVP candidate Carlos Beltran in the outfield with Green and Alou (who are admittedly on the decline) this year and top prospects Milledge, Gomez, and Martinez waiting in the wings, arguably the best bullpen in baseball (all-star closer and phenom set-up men), and a clubhouse that seems to do nothing but win games and while HAVING FUN. Not to mention how much Texans love hippy-California types like Zito. Ok, maybe it's been twenty years since the mets have won it all, but where do YOU think the better fit is? Oh, and unless anyone can change history and unmake the Cardinals Worls Series champs, the AL superiority argument doesn't fly.

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cousinrk Anonymous

I need to apply for a job at this paper, I don't have any journalism experience but really who needs it at this crackpot outfit. They obviously don't require you to fact check, watch baseball games, or bring any intelligent arguments to any article you write. The staff is filled with rejects who couldn't write in a real city for a real paper and therefore get stuck in the siberia of the United States...Texas. Watching the Rangers or as I like to call them, the place where pitchers go to die, must be painful.
2 words Mo Vaughn? What does that have to do with this years team? The Cards won 83 games, and beat the "best" the great American league had to offer. Come on dude, give us something. Oh wait is this paper a comedy newspaper? Oh wow I didn't get it, my apologies. How could I think legit writers could be so stupid. My mistake.

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alamosucks Anonymous

Remember the Alamo. That says it all about Texas. They claim to be winners but base they're whole existance on being wiped by MEXICANS in an adobe fort. Yeah..Mexico is like France they always lose...except to Texans. Just another reason Barry should join the Mets.

Just say no....to Texas.

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alamosucks Anonymous

Come on now. You title your article "SCREW YOU, NEW YORK METS" and you don't expect any vitriol flying your way? Typical texan...punch someone in the face, say sorry and expect no counter punch. Yeah, the Alamo sucks. Its a memorial for a LOST BATTLE. A few years ago there were native Texans who wanted to secede again. I would have been so happy if that happened. You guys gave us GW Bush...that is like giving your girlfriend herpes and being proud of it. Thanks for nothing.

BZ is going to the Mets...eat that!

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BUY_A_CLUE Anonymous

Chad Jones "I would like to restrict any further conversation to people are able to speak English. That being said, "alamosucks," please learn the language. Thank you."

-Chad, you may want to proof read your own post before casting stones. Thank you.

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alamosucks Anonymous

Hey BLAIR. Where is Tootie, Natalie and Ms. Garrett?

Please, you have no clue when it comes to Baseball...just like the Rangers.

A-Rod for 200+ Million, Chan Ho Park, that horrible stadium...the mistakes by Arlington keep coming.

also, to the guy that cited UT-Austin. NY has Columbia, NYU, Cornell, RIT..so on and so forth...Austin can't compare.

AS

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alamosucks Anonymous

Blair..you are ridiculous. You cite that the Mets lost in first round of the playoffs (wrong). You cite that being in a WS is worthy of nothing (wrong), you think that 3 playoff years for Texas back in the 90's is relevant today (wrong). What has Texas done right in 2000's???? Nothing but overpay for A-rod and Chan Ho Park. They can never finish better than Angels or A's in that division DESPITE having a higher payroll.

Also Blair, your article would not make it in a NY newspaper. I guess texans will read ANYTHING!

Bye bye Blair. Say hi to Tootie for me.

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alamosucks Anonymous

Hahahahaha, Blair is a dude? Hahahaha, that is hilarious. All this time I thought Blair was a woman. That makes this whole thing even worse for you. And you aren't even a native Texan but a Virginian? hahahaha

You are like George Allen, the guy who ran for senate in Virgina and he was from California and use the MAKAKA word that led to his downfall. Blair, you need to do the following:

1) Change your Name to a real Man's Name. 2) Move Back to Virginia and Root for the Richmond Spiders. 3) Disown this column as you have been humiliated and sold out by your own staff member...Thanks Mike Orren!

AS

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MrMet Anonymous

Tell me this Blair, what exactly is your argument then? Your quote was the following:

"I'm just saying that these people and/or teams clamoring for Barry Zito, claiming they are the best thing in sports since the invention of the jock strap....."

What is this based on? Your opinion? Do you have anything to support such a claim, or is it your practice to write articles based on opinions and post them as fact? I find it humorous that you would make such a vague statement as the one above, title it "Screw You, New York Mets" then be surprised by the backlash.

I beg you to provide sources that show where the Mets or "Mets people" claimed that Zito should go to NY because they are winners and TX isn't. If your anger is directed at the NY media, it has some validity. But the NY media is a far different animal than the Mets organization and its players.

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kconn616 Anonymous

ya'll texans er makin' me laugh the way ya'll think yer team is so good. rangers are a last place team, haven't had a pitcher in 15 years, have poor management, and aren't getting out of the cellar anytime soon. Mets have better young players. Mets have better Front Office and on-field personel. Mets have a FAR better team. Reyes, Wright, Beltran.... Mets have 6 all-star players, and Delgado is one of the best non-AS players in the league. Rick Peterson is a reputable pitching coach. Mets are comitted to winning. NYC > Arlington {Arlington sounds like a nice lil town though}

Why would Barry Zito want to play for the Rangers again? I forgot, he can have his ERA balloon to 4.00 in that god-awful park, when he can win a Cy Young, World Series, and have his best years in New York....

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kconn616 Anonymous

what does texas have better to offer than the Mets?

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alamosucks Anonymous

Ask Chan Ho Park if he would pitch in Texas again?

Didn't think so...

Barry Z to the Mets.

Sorry BLAIR, you can go back to your crocheting now.

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alamosucks Anonymous

Life as Blair Lovern. Autobiography by Mike Orren.

Blair was born in 1967 as Blair Bosephus Lovern in a small hovel in Virginia. The Son of a cotton farmer, Blair grew up idolizing great Blairs in Film...namely Blair from the Facts of Life. As He matured, he appreciated the betamax tapes of the show that his parents would provide for him. Ultimately, Blair Lovern became a writer with the Alamo Times. He would write on chaffon, doileys and the Texas Rangers. On December 14, 2006, Blair insulted the New York Mets and their fanbase by trying to write incisively. When that attempt failed, he went back to baking and crocheting. Blair currently lives in a small studio apartment and shares his time with his Poodle Chan Ho and his cat A-Bust.

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Chaseh Anonymous

Must be from Manasass.

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jcd377 Anonymous

There's been a lot of comments thrown around that say the Mets are clearly the superior team, and the Rangers are the bad news bears of Major league baseball. Okay fine. Don't wont to go back 20 years to the last Met championship because it's old news? Okay fine. Let's just review the last five years. The Rangers record since 2002: 391-419. A losing record, right? Maybe the Met fans are right. But wait. What was the Mets' record over the same period? 392-416. Notice anything about these numbers? In the last 5 seasons the Mets have won one single game more than the Rangers and they had to to have a 97 win season this year just to pull it off or the Rangers would have been ahead of them. In 2005 the Mets finished 4 games ahead of the Rangers. Just two years ago the Rangers finished a whopping 18 games ahead of the Mets! The Rangers will have a good team next season with or without Zito, but with him I think the Rangers could have a shot at winning the AL West. So Met fans don't let one good season go to your heads. It wasn't that long ago you were at the bottom of the league. Why coudnn't the Rangers have a similar turn around? The have have a good young core of players and a solid bullpen. Were only a good starter away from being in the playoffs.

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hrockoff Anonymous

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Ra...

One playoff win in 45 years? Ouch! I didn't realize the Texas Rangers is one of the biggest piece of crap franchises in all of baseball.

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alamosucks Anonymous

Let's face it. When someone mentions an up and coming team they NEVER mention the Texas Rangers? Why is that? The ONLY reason Barry Zito is even considering the Rangers is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Tom Hicks is crazy with his money and that may be the ONLY way to attract players to Texas.

The mets played well last year and came up just short...1 game in fact.

What happened to the Rangers? They lost badly, the manager got booted...they hired a guy that no one heard of before...they were looking to trade some of their best players...why would anyone come to texas? $$$$$$$$$$$ that's why. Tom Hicks...gotta love him...he is the Steinbrenner of the South.

AS

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One_Shot_Deal Anonymous

Blair,

If the Mets & Rangers were in the same division, the Rangers would need a periscope to see a snake's belly.

jcd,

"Were[sic] only a good starter away from being in the playoffs."

Yep, you're right: that starter is Sandy Koufax...

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alamosucks Anonymous

http://www.stadiumpage.com/future/111...

The New Mets Stadium (open in 2009)

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alamosucks Anonymous

Wow, that video reminds me of the video that those Columbine kids put out before they shot up a school. Eeirily how the machine gun was put in that video. I guess something in the Midwest makes them snap. Maybe its the water or the gun racks located in all the pickups.

YEEEE HAWWWWW!

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kconn616 Anonymous

i saw the yankee comments they made, and they dont realize b/c they dont live in the real world of NYC, the mets own this town. they have youth, athleticism, promise, excitement, and diversity. yankee fans are more critical than ever of them b/c they know they've lost their zeal. the comments are in part due to the fact that they think the yankees are unbeatable b/c they could never come close to a game with them.

and for the guy talking about past 5 year records: the mets are a 97 win team with young stars getting better, and have improved significantly with an all-star hitter in alou {chavez was basically the starter last year} and the rangers.... well they are a poor team who just signed vicente padilla as their offseason gem {along with a broken down former star closer}, while losing carlos lee and gary matthews jr. but im sure u could compete with the mets

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alamosucks Anonymous

So Maternity-ow-skee, what you are saying is that the Rangers can't even make the playoffs without BZ? Hahaha, that is probably true. The Rangers are the Cubs of the AL. Except that the Cubs have won a WS and have won more than 1 playoff game in their history.

I still can't believe the rangers have only won 1 playoff game in their whole history!!!

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jcd377 Anonymous

And the Mets resigning Tom "Older than Dirt" Glavine was a major deal I suppose. Oh, and don't forget Orlando Hernandez. How old will he be next season? Does anyone even know? I can understand why the Mets want Zito, if they don't get him they will be in deep trouble with their current rotation. And you should be concerned because it's far from a done deal that Zito will be a Met. We all know that Hicks will be waving a lot of money in his face and with the Great Satan as his agent who knows where he will end up. As a Ranger's fan what scares me more is Zito going to the Angels. If he does go to New York it keeps him from going to another AL West team which is good for the Rangers.

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otterulz Anonymous

Well Mets/Rangers is hardly the Milan Derby. Hmm....maybe it will be. Do we play each other in Interleague play next season?

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alamosucks Anonymous

The angels, as currently constituted, will win the AL West, followed by the A's, The Mariners and the Rangers.

Sadly, Scott Boras will push for BZ to take Hicks money (ala A-Bust for 252 million...what a great bargain!). We will see, early indications is that BZ wants to play for the mets and his old pitching coach. However, SB may steer him away due to Tom Hicks' barrel loads of money.

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alamosucks Anonymous

HUSHTHATFUSS

I am fixing to...

These are examples of Blair-speak.

AS

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jcd377 Anonymous

Just a question, if the Mets are so great why all the urgency to sign BZ? Hmmmm? I would think a team this wonderful wouldn't need him.

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Hecterra Anonymous

I joined this site to tell you that you are actually clueless.

The Mets were one game...indeed one out away from the World Series. That makes them closer to the brass ring.

As for the last comment about need---That's why the Mets haven't gone crazy to sign him yet. They've got young pitching with more on the way. They have an injured STAR that will come back after the All-Star break and thus ensure the team doesn't have to make a deal at the deadline. Sorry Mets are just in a better position...maybe ya'll shouldn't have scared A-Rod away....

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musclemenace Anonymous

From the people here at ProSportsDaily.com...this has to be the worst article ever written. No clue as to why the site would even allow such a spot. Shows the worth that the site has. If anyone is interested in joining a REAL blog site, come to http://PSD.com. If Blair is a "staff" member, I'd hate to hear what the mods or admins sound like.

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jcd377 Anonymous

My problem is not with the Mets or Mets's fans. Hey, I was hoping for a Mets win in the NLCS( I can't stand the Cardinals). My problem has been with the New York Media. In one article Arlington was referred to as a "backwater baseball city". Excuse me? That writer was ignorant of Texas Baseball. Did he even know who our first manager was? Only Ted Williams, the greatest hitter that ever lived. We have had numerous players that have won batting titles and League MVP awards. We have had several Hall of Fame players: Fergie Jenkins, Gaylord Perry, and Nolan Ryan. We hosted the very first interleague game. Texas also has hosted the all-star game. Texas has had it's struggles over the last few years, but we are far from a "backwater" baseball city.

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Metsball69 Anonymous

Akinori Otsuka is apparently too pricey for the Mets. Arizona has been reportedly linked in trade talks with Texas, although the Rangers are said to be interested in three young pitchers who are all candidates to make the Diamondbacks' rotation. In other words, they'd probably be looking for someone as promising as Mike Pelfrey for Otsuka. -- New York Post

Yikes! I hate to say it that the Texans could get better just with this trade. Don't do it Omar.

Honestly, I'm not so sure Zito is worth what the Rangers are offering him. With this overpriced market, he's worth more than Meche. I think the Mets should stand firm on what is believed to be considerably less than the Rangers and if he ends up not signing with the Mets, then we take our chances with Pelfrey, Perez, Humber, and heck even David Williams.

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musclemenace Anonymous

I'm not here to argue or compete against your "jounalism". I'm after your readers. I'm sure they're upset due to the lack of substance the site carries. So, if you guys are interested...we take Mets and Rangers fans alike. Everyone is equal, and we don't chug the haterade.

Blair, put your "journalism" to work and give em' the link again, lol. I'm sure no one was able to read the very first line where it was TYPED out (sarcasm?).

Oh and Erin, sometimes I feel the same way. And I have a Ph.D in microbiology. Go figure ;/

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djh8614 Anonymous

Blair to qoute yourself the basic idea of your article is, "people and/or teams clamoring for Barry Zito, claiming they are the best thing in sports since the invention of the jock strap need a reality check." Is that correct?

Well if your read the Bergen Record article the basic idea is that the mets feel like they are going to have a good team next year and have a shot at winning the World Series. To qoute David Wright, "In my eyes you'd be crazy not to want to come here". As a mets fan I am excited that one of our young stars is excited to be playing in New York and feels like the mets are the best team in the MLB to play on. You may disagree with him and that is fine. So you are basically saying "Screw You, New York Mets" because there is a winning additude in the clubhouse. Which to me seems a little ridicoulous.

Second, I happen to agree with your assesment of Zito, and guess what so do the Mets. As of right now they are not planning on breaking the bank and putting the future of the franchise at risk just to make a splash in the off-season, and make a run at the World Series. Omar Minaya make the mets a constant winner and signing Zito to 7yr 100+ mil won't help in the long term.

Third, a team is not a loser just because they did not win the World Series the year before. To take your argument to the extreme you are saying the Detriot Tigers have as much right to call themselves a winner as the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. If a FA is lloking to go to a winner they would pick Detriot over TB. Just as if Zito wants to have a chance to win the WS he will go to the mets and if he wants lots of money he will go to Texas.

I hope everyone has a grat holiday

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hakoop Anonymous

100 comments on a story most of you hate. Unemployment in Queens must be alarmingly high.

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mcs81986 Anonymous

I was one of the very first people to comment and to come back about one day later, I would never expect how out of hand all the commenting became. I agree, the Mets aren't a winner yet until they win the World Series. "Mets think Zito should join a winner" is a headl